PROJECT WOLF HUNTING (South Korea, 2022)

WELL STAPLE MY EYES SHUT we're back again with in-your-face action-horror-sci-fi-splatter-OMG-fest PROJECT WOLF HUNTING directed by Kim Hong-sun, starring Seo In-guk and Jang Dong-yoon.
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Since last we spoke we've been cramming in a bunch of stuff across the board: Fierce Cop, Plane, DDLJ, An Action Hero, All Quiet On The Western Front, The Whale, Knock At The Cabin Door, Wakanda Forever, Scream 5...

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There's basically a bit where they did two more combat fatalities in about 20 seconds. Body count, 57, leases of blood, 2.5 tons. Jiu-hita-ru-koma, jiu-hita. Wow. I'm the guy here. on a fighting without fighting. Shoot it! Always try to face kick. Gosh this. Welcome to Dodge this season two episode two. Ooh, a little delay there, but we're back on tracks sort of probably, I don't know if you can start counting it from there in a couple of weeks time, but nonetheless we are here, that's the main thing. And we've got a big one. It's project wolf hunting. It's quite quite a lot of movie featuring quite a lot of blood. My name is Simon Fielder and joining me as ever from somewhere else in the world, thanks to the modern miracle of technology. John William Elizabeth Trent Heitan III. Thank you. And thank you for using my title. A lot of people think titles are dated and a sign of the elite. I love it. I love you. Not this guy. He bought one from an Instagram ad and that is why I am duty-bound to refer to him by his full name. I've gone forward. Hey, Instagram knows me better than I know myself. Those talking about a so-on-point new. Absolutely terrifying, absolutely terrifying. So we've got quite a lot to get through this episode actually and not least the extraordinary main feature that is project wall-funding all the way from South Korea. Before we get into that, as usual, I'd like to do a little bit of a roundup of things that we've seen outside the remit of the pod. Matthew, anything them? Tickled your gizzards? Yeah, I mean, I have been watching a lot got up to less time I saw you, but I finally watched the whale, which was a very, very good. Okay. Haven't seen. Very good. The hype for Brendan Fraser well deserved actually. But yeah, that was probably the best thing I've seen. And then yeah, I can't remember for seeing you since this. I watched Knock at the Cabin. Don't know if we mentioned that last time. Actually, no, I don't think we had to be it. I think since I've seen you, I've never seen you. I've watched quite a lot. So things relevance the pod. I watched all quiet on the Western front and Black Panther were kind of forever. Okay. Both are all quiet on the Western front. Absolutely incredible. Really? It is hard going at times, but oh my god, is that film like, from a photography point of view, it is stunning. Wow, okay. So well, the biggest compliment you can ever give it is even though it's a Netflix film, it doesn't feel like it feels like pure cinema. Right. It's so, so good and yeah, I very much recommend it. Wow, okay. And what kind of forever? Yeah, less said the better. Oh no. Really, didn't like it. He's a Marvel fanboy. This is a rarity to hear you not excited about a Marvel movie. Yeah, it just, yeah, like all Marvel films, it's fine. Like it was, it's fine. This is like the quantum mania trailer. 100% fine. But I mean, it just, I don't know, I obviously like, we're kind of forever has the sort of shadow boastman legacy and all what happened with him dying everything. So there to, obviously right around that, but I just felt that it's just a bit boring and a bit messy, which out, yeah. Maybe I'm getting gold. But so much better than a scream five or whichever when it was, I thought, I'd watch that because I got excited about screen six from the new trailer. I thought, oh, no, it's all right. Actually, I'll watch screen five first and can maybe they did read that now as terrible. Oh no, I was very tempted when it came out. Just I think because it's been so long maybe I'd forgotten all the ones in between. I was like, no, maybe I'll give that a look. Screen is still incredible. First screen is still brilliant. Jorma redefiner. I thought, that's what we're going to do with this for a new genital now. No. What about you? Well, I'm still watching the last of us. I think I'm up to episode four now out of five. Yeah, I think that's no. I think it's six now. He's maybe even six. I think maybe five, six. Who knows? By the time this goes out, there might be another one. Yeah, it's great. It's still great. Still great. Still really enjoying it. Absolutely solid. I made a bit of a maverick maneuver last week and I thought I had like a bit of time and I thought, I'm going to, I want to go to the cinema. And I can't just want to see something fun and I did it. I went to see person boots to no, I went to see plain the Gerard Butler movie. How was it? It was fine. It was absolutely. If it when it comes to Amazon Prime, probably in the next few months, you'll press play on it and you'll be like, yeah, yeah, that was absolutely all right, actually. actually. It didn't annoy me really at all, which I think is quite a good thing. It kind of set out as still, it was like, look, this is what we're going to do when making this movie. Just pretend it's 1994. And yeah, it just did all the things that I thought it was going to do. And then in a fine way. And very few points was I like, oh, come on, come on, come on. It didn't happen. the fucking planes on this motherfucking plane. Did that happen? Quite often actually. Yeah. That was probably my only complaint was that they could have cut out a few people saying that. But yeah. Otherwise, a meat and two veg old fashioned action thriller that is perfectly diverting for, I would say, the 90 to 100 minutes. Also, it wasn't fucking two hours for a long or anything. Just gets in. Did it fucked off. Hey, this project with them and that was two hours in an hour. It's very appreciative of them. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Also saw, I really, I would think if you're up for it, I would like to do an episode where we, I don't know how it would be possible, but maybe we watch like three Chinese DTV action movies and talk about them because there is this like burgeoning scene of Chinese streaming services just cranking out these but not a bad action movies. And they all come in at like 87 minutes. They're not knocking about. So I've got a few of them banked. I watched one called fierce cop, which was choreographed by the same guy who did the choreography for raging fire and renecension. Oh, I love re-ronecension. I still haven't watched it. I'd also like to get into that. I don't know if re-ronecensions won for you. I've got the first one on my list. I just haven't pressed on it yet. Simon, this is where we nerd. Have you got the first one as in the one that was years and years ago on your list, or the first movie? Yeah, I've got the first released movie in the official order. It's very live action anime. I love it. Yeah. Okay. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. I am absolutely love it. Anyway, this guy did the action design for Fist Cops. So it's got some like, really, really good stuff. really enjoyable action. It's called Fist Cope. Yeah, yeah. But outside of the clearly time and budgetary restrictions, which means there's glimmers of cool action and then it sort of finishes. We're like, no, I find that was twice as long. And outside of the action, it's quite a, it's a bit of a mess, TBH. But I think it's a very interesting rabbit hole to go down. There's at least 10 of these DTV movies with the word sniper in the title. We go to several sniper movies. I would love to do that. This is something I was thinking about this last week. And we talked about this load about how unless you're really into like film and looking into this stuff, you never know what's a big budget film and a low budget film. Obviously you can tell when you watch it. I'd love to see a search function where you can search by budget and see what's really expensive. So much expensive stuff ends up awful. And then to say so much. stuff. I'd love to know how much they made it for because like I can forgive so much on a budget if it's got vision. It's like when I found out that accident man 2 was shot in 11 days or something and I was like, I was like the the gith of Tim and Eric, Corey's like, It's just incredible. I just can't, I literally cannot fathom how it is possible to fit on 19 action movie in 11 days. This is a blow to my mind. Anything with practical stunts as well, how long you'd have to. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, we'll get into a minute in the trailers, but we're going to talk about that matrix trailer behind the scenes in a second. But there's a ton, they were saying like, yeah, matrix, tomwik, yeah. You know, the matrix guy, the speed one on the bus, Oh my God, my brain. It's good to see, we know which one of the podcasts is going to be. It's going to be one of those brains. Oh boy. But when he said like, he had 12 weeks of training for certain new styles that he was doing, my brain both went, imagine having 12 weeks to put into just training, but also, that's not enough for training, just to give him like the source of self-esteem. So yeah, when they've got stuff doing 11 days, it's mad and incredible. the talent of everyone involved that you just turn up on set and you're like, let's go. I know the choreography. We've plotted everything out. We've prevised all the fights. All the shots are, I mean, yeah, you've got to be so on it. Have a new fair place. All of them. It's like, you want to rate it higher because of everything. But it's so weird, isn't it? You don't take that into account. It's like playing is like, oh, yeah, it's like a sort of medium budget of probably like, if $40 million. And accident man's made for like under two, what's the thing insane? I really think that sort of thing should be worn out sleeve. Like everything everywhere, scooping out the bathroom, still in Hollywood turns a low-budget film. And again, it's like there's so much to be said about having an idea, having a vision, having a focus, and just doing what you can to get on screen, rather than going through the Hollywood machine and it chewed up and spat through VFX and all the rest. Just... Yeah. Yeah. I'll happily add a star on sort of things if I find out it's been done with. Well, let's put a pin in Chinese DTV movies and put up a circle back around in a future episode. Also, FYI, I've watched two Bollywood movies in the last few weeks. Oh, nice. One on Netflix called An Action Hero, which is, I would say, it's a sort of satirical drama, occasionally funny, occasionally actiony kind of. It was interesting to watch because it wasn't a mass crowd-pleasing Bollywood entertainer. And it was like, I feel like all we've seen is these spec Bollywood spectacles and our brains are like, well, this is what all Bollywood movies are. And it wasn't that. It was like, oh, right. Okay, cool. It's just like a movie that fits into a different compartment. So that was interesting. And I also watched what I was told was the genre compartment. Yeah. 1990s, one of the most fated of all time called DDLJ, which stands for a lot of stuff in the Hindi that I'm going to miss when I'm at the Mac. But if you've heard of it, you've heard of it. Yes, because it had charuacan in it from Patatas. I want to say university. Really? Yeah, it was very interesting. It was a solid three hours long and it was pretty much everything that you have in your head that a Bollywood movie is based on having seen of them when you were younger. It is that movie. So I think it was very nice for a bit of background shading. Any loops. Hey, it's all good. It's quite a wittery intro mate. We've got a lot covered. We're talking film, you know, it's all good. That's, let's smash, smash you these trailers and get some feature then. Come on then, press the trailer button. I'm going to say this to the top of this. All these trailers this week, I left a really great list of trailers. They all, I feel like we've, we had a real barren patch of nothing. And I feel like now we're getting stuff that I'm getting quite excited about. Right. This is textbook podcast, isn't it? There's not much to say about this. My only weird thing about this, and this is very much what I would say is a, let's call it a 20s problem, like the 2020s. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff now harking back to a lot of, you know, 90s, 90s indie boom, which we've talked about a million times. But now it's weird to see stuff that is clearly influenced by Kill Bill, almost calling itself Kill Bill. I don't know what there's some market employers, but everything about this has that sort of edge of it. Yes. Even to the point where fonts and things like that are starting to look the same. I just find that fascinating, because the film itself looks great. And I think I don't know which way I fall on something where that influence that openly. I don't know, I don't think it'll change anything. I just find it fascinating. Inspire the title, the kill bill didn't even pop into my head watching this. Like a hundred other movies did. of an assassin who has a real life, I guess, is the every patient, right? Just the way they track, like sword handles and stuff like that. Yeah, there's a very much. I'm interested to see it. Could go either way. Go either way. Yeah, definitely on the list. This one is almost certainly on the list as well. Yeah, yeah. Donnie Yen stars and directs in Suckra. His long awaited say a Wujah movie, Harking Back to, I feel like I haven't seen Donnie spinning around with a sword for quite a long time outside of it, man, but attached to wires running across rooftops for the uninitiated, the sort of crouching tiger style Chinese martial arts movies. It looks like a textbook Wujah movie, and really with Donnie at the helm, I'm excited. I just, I hope it gets a cinema release, because this looks like it would be So great to see on a big screen. This is what has blown my mind about this. I had no idea about this until you sent me this trailer. And it's already out in Singapore. It's already been released. And it's heard nothing about it. And it looks absolutely stunning. It looks epic. As a massive fan of the Holy Trinity that is a crouching target hero and house of flying daggers. I thought you were going to say, carsguns fists. Carsgun fists. the other holy Trinity. But yeah, so yeah, a lot of cars in this period piece. So you cars. They're there. They're just the dress efforts like houses and things. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, that was like, we talked again, like coming from someone who loved Jack Chen, sort of the Hong Kong cinema of the Northeast. When there was that turn from crouching tiger and it sort of changed the whole landscape of martial arts films. Those three films, tiger, hero, flying daggers. Yeah. They were just so spectacularly good and they spawned so many knockoffs. But I don't think anything has hit those heights since for that, like you say, that sort of, it's like, I call them wire epics, essentially. Like big, like fluid set pieces, beautiful choreography, beautiful, like, sudden soundtrack. And as much in this, hit all those notes, but it didn't feel like a throwback or it didn't feel like something trying to be something else. It just looked incredible. and I'm so excited watching this trailer. And like you say, I hope it gets a massive release because I would hate not to see this on the biggest screen. I'd go, I want to see it on a big screen. Yeah, fingers crossed. I don't know where I dig up the international release schedule on this, but you hope it's going to get least a limited release in the old big cities in it. Yeah, I'm very excited to see Donnie. I don't, I am, I'm both excited. And I just don't know if he's going to suplex anyone in this movie. So there'll be a soup like somewhere. There was even in the trailer, there's a bit of him sort of skidding along the floor with a sword, which I was like, I love a pretty, pretty excited about that. Yeah. That hargess back to the Dragon Ball Z intro for me, there's a bit where the move is done. It's such an anime move whenever I see it in a live action. I love it. I love it. I love to see it. Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen a good wish, aren't we? This one looks like an absolute treat. I thought we were going to go an episode without I have a John Wick 4, but they released another goddamn trailer, didn't they? And I'm not going to talk about the trailer so much as the accompanying little behind the scenes, a featureette. The, what do you call those? You just nailed it. It's behind the scenes. Featureette? Yeah, it is a behind the scenes featureette, isn't it? Feature and Kiano chatting about the movie and some sweet clips from the movie and him sort of naming all the people in it. And finally, as listeners of the podcast will know, we've been doing a lot of things Raven about Scott Adkins since day one and he's been saying he's in John Wick for and people have been going through the trailers with a fine tooth Come and even I did on this new trailer. I was like, oh, there's a guy with a sort of shaved head. It looks a bit like boiker Is that and they're paused it was like, no, that's not Scott Adkins. Where they're F is he and he's revealed in this Behind the scenes as this thing. Do you completely unrecognizable? Yeah, in a sort of I guess you would call it a fat suit Is that what they're still called? I don't know like all this process. Wait, augmenting suit. No, I just think this is like, it's more the facial prosthesis that looks mad on it. He looks completely different. It looks very fun. Looks like to the point where he could be a street fighter character. Yes. Sort of grow test skin points. But you're always cartoonish. I think I could have watched the entire John Wick 4 and not recognize them. Right. Because he's even doing like, he's even doing like a real vlog scene. Yeah, it looks there's not much more to say on this. I'm so excited, John Wick for to the point where this should be out before this ends, but I think prime are very aware that John Wick falls coming out because they put the or the other John wicks onto the disappearing within 30 days because everyone's obviously going to want to rewatch them when it comes out and that means rent money. So if you all listen to this and you are thinking of doing a recap of them which I think Prime is going to disappear them to paid. So try and get on that ASAP. Yes, I think over here and presumably in the US, they're on HBO Max at the moment, interestingly. Oh, I mean, yeah, we don't need to interestingly, but we do get that. So that's very exciting. And you can see prosthetic tups, Scott Agkins, clothes lining Keanu Reeves very briefly in that trailer. We've got one more trailer and this one, oh, this one's an absolute doozy. know anything about it, it's called sissu, which means something in finish. And it's basically, if you, like I imagine most people, maybe think the genre of old guys being hard is sort of drying up a little bit, you know, the sort of post taken world of, oh yeah, that guys, I thought that guy was like in his 60s. Well, he's been trained up a lot and he's really, really cracking I've had enough of that. What about, what about if we set it in the 1940s and it was Crack a Nazi skulls? I'm back on board. I'm ready. I'm ready for this movie about a Finnish gold prospector seemingly fighting Nazis in a very brutal way. This trailer took me to be a complete surprise that you say, oh my God, this is tick tick tick for me. Everything in this trailer. It's also the Red Band trailer, so it's the, they show the blood and the crunchy bits, you know. And from the trailer, you can see it's self-aware, so it knows it's a bit ridiculous to stuff like that. It's, it's gold, it's very over the top at times, but it does look like it's got some heart to it. But I mean, there has been the trailer. Watch the Red Band trailer. He throws a landmine at someone. It's absolutely proud of what. I was already enjoying the trailer. That happened and I was like, okay, I'm going to be putting this on my Google search. Yeah, this is where we are with that shot. That's where we're going. This is the movie. This is the movie you're getting, you guys. And it's a great set up as well. So if you watch trailers, this is like second one. He finds this massive, old, hard guy. We don't know much about him. old, clearly looks like he's going to change his life. And it's like, says something like 565 miles to the bank, like in text. And you're like, yeah, oh, he has to cross the land to protect what it says. This is great. And then if I can tank steam them, it's great. They're thankful to Nazis arrived and you're like, oh, we're not expecting that actually. Okay, what are we going to do now? So excited about this. specialist set of skills and he will use them to explode a lot of people in a bloody and amusing way. And we haven't even mentioned he's got a cute dog, so you know that's going to be good. This was directed by the guy who directed that movie called Big Game. Did you watch that with Samuel L Jackson? No. And I believe there was a dog in that as well. I didn't watch it, but for a split second, I thought you were just going to go, he Have you heard of that? Have you heard of that, maybe? Imagine this is a sort of video I make big, but the piano scene has landmines. Jot it down, Matthew. Keep an eye on the socials. LAUGHTER That's funny actually. Is this how you come up with the idea? This is great isn't it? I have a great one that I'm making later. Can you give us sort of the reveal? Yeah, it doesn't work then it won't go out. But you know the bit in Star Wars where it's like, these are the droids you're looking for. I'm basically going to do that. But the reason they don't recognize them is I'm going to put false moustaches on them. So they say, it gets funny. For people who aren't aware of your Earth, That is the perfect sort of summing up of the sort of thing that you post weekly on all the socials. Yes, a fully worth of follow for that. Yeah. So, and check into myself. So, that's a good sign. That's the key, really, isn't it? That is the trailers. What a bunch of... I'm so excited about 2023 as an action-y-you. I think it's going to be good. Yeah, this is a good set of trails, actually. Last episode was a few, and I had to... I say I had to. I threw in a DTV movie that we definitely won't watch. last time. Or is this one actually had more on the list and I shunted a couple to next episode because I thought, let's, we got to get through them. Alright, from droids wearing the stashes in a lovely bout of whimsy right to the other end of the spectrum, whimsy free. It's our feature presentation. I will teach you a presentation. Touch this. All right, we are off to South Korea for project wolf hunting. Here's the lowdown. It premiered. Well, at the end of January, actually, on the icon film channel. Matt, do you know what the icon film channel is? I think it's a UK thing on Amazon Prime. I do now because I got a free trial for it to watch this film. Did you? I wanted to watch it on my big TV. Lovely stuff. Speaking of sort of a back referencing the Donnie In movie, is getting a limited release in UK cinemas on the 10th of March. So if you are sort of super excited to see what no spoilers, but 2.5 tons of blood looks like on the biggest screen possible. You could probably hang about for a couple of weeks and see it on the big screen. I can only imagine what this would be like to watch on the big screen. Is that how much blood they use? According to the director, they use 2.5 tons of blood. Matt, do one of your absolutely classic plot sum-ups for us? Okay. And I think actually, before we get into this, where do we want to sit on spoilers? Because I will say there's one major thing in this movie that I don't think it's a spoiler, because it is set up quite early, but it does really impact the second half of the film. Yeah, I think, and I generally will say this now, I'm going to talk about this in full. So if you are thinking, you want to go in there, complete this arm. I'd say, come back to the podcast after you watch it. I will agree with that. Yeah. Sorry, you've got this far in. So we should have said that at the beginning of the show, but yeah, I think this one, it's so hard to talk about it without specifics. And I think I went in not knowing anything. So I think you will enjoy it more if things surprise you. So maybe give it a pause. seven day trial. Oh, that was implying. And you can watch it. Or if you're gonna go and see it in the cinema, just come back and listen to this in a couple of weeks. I'm so sorry, I'll skip to the end. But you've had a lovely, fun 20 minutes of classic Simon and Matt Pantz. Okay. Okay, with that in mind, Matthew, the plot summary, which I suppose now can give us more of the salient details. Okay, so we're South Korea film. opening with we know a bunch of red notice criminals are going to be moved to career somewhere in career. Quick question. What is a red notice aside from a Netflix film with Dwayne Johnson and Ryan Reynolds? Please didn't watch it. Or I can say very, very bad. What I can do is to say, yeah, from from this is the worst of the worst. If you've been given a red notice, it's like a most wanted essentially. You're a real anorety one. Yeah. You're wrong. and you're a pesky little villain. You're an absolute rotter. Okay, so they're all, they're going to put them on a ship and transport them to the Philippines. No, no, they're going to put them on a plane at first and transport them. Gotcha. But one of the criminals going on the plane is targeted by a suicide bomber who says enough is enough bang. So they decide to put all these criminals on a cargo ship that will be full of detectives and armed and just a minimum skeleton crew and the idea is to ship them from point A to point B, classic ship stuff. Symbols. What could go wrong? As I say, they're naughty naughty boys. I have pesky villains. Nauti boys and girls. They're pesky, pesky wrongans. And they have essentially orchestrated an escape. good film. People are getting killed. There is a lot of blood. When the blood's coming, it's already a lot. It does not stop. And you think, well, we're the cops of Robbersville, isn't it? At this point, it is. It's good versus bad. It's got that under siege containment sort of, there's no way to run it. It's at the sea. So it's going to go through and it's playing out like exactly that sort of thing. They're not a shit. The first thing they do is they're going to disable everything. They're are going to have to figure out what's going on while the good guy is trying to survive. That's where you go. You think we're going to root for the good guys probably because they're cops and hopefully they'll catch all the criminals. That's where you are, isn't it? About 20 minutes in. 20 minutes in. That's a great two hour film. It's going to be who's going to be last people standing. Oh, my few. One hour went in. It does one of my favorite things. It just still dorms it. It does still do it. That's exactly what it does. This is called the Stephen King effect. I'll talk about it in a minute. And it twists a unknown element into it that comes out of nowhere. In this case, something that is, I would say borders on the supernatural. There is an old World War II. It's kind of a super soldier sort of kept in America, got wrong. And this thing, who is supposed to be a neithetized on the ship, being shipped alongside these villains, wakes up because of the amount of blood is that what happens? Yeah, the blood goes through the drain, it hits the pipe and it wakes it up out of it. I didn't remember that. It pulls out of it's an ether-tie sleep and this thing is essentially an unstoppable monster. Now, the same thing plays out and what I love about this film is it feels like who's going to survive till the end and it really gives you enough about each character. There's a lot of people at the start of this and it's very good at red herringing. game of thrones this. No one you think is safe is safe. And even the way you think they might sort of have their little arcs that will lead to like a showdown between A and B and X and Y absolutely. This rogue element decimates. He just derives and kills a half the people in the film in about 10 minutes. And then you're like what the absolute tits is happening. It comes in an hour and so as I said, Dustel dawns it. I once watched a feature of Dustel dawn. when, you know, this is pre DVD. How behind the scenes feature it. Matthew, behind the scenes feature it. So I love those. I heard them. Yeah. And I remember I come in if it was Tantine or Robert Rodriguez used his turn. Because Düsseldorn is one of my favorite films of that era. And I had no idea about that film, which is why if you're still listening and you did pause, I'm glad you're here, because I love a film that I don't know enough about the silly twist. I never knew there's a vampire element in Düsseldorn Sparrow, preemptive spoilers for the 25 year old movie that. Yeah, yeah. And they called this the Stephen King effect, which is the idea is what Stephen King does in his right and you'll see it in any adaptation. A few watch a film of it. He gives you the characters where they're good or bad and he sets their world and he gives you enough of those characters to understand their day to day life or their day to day situation or the situation at that point. to start caring for them and understanding the dynamics that they are facing in what you think is their story. And then Stephen King effected essentially like snapping a branch and the earth falls away from underneath you. Like you suddenly just dragged them through hell. Is that idea you go a normal normal normal drag through hell. And that's exactly what Düsseldorm was. It was like a criminal film like a you know, Bonnie and Clyde's that suddenly was dragged through hell. And this is exactly that. And I've not seen a film do this well since Düsseldorne. I really loved how they executed this. Yeah, very interesting comparison. That I think that is the closest, at least the icon remember. It's just, it's a massive reveal, isn't it? I suppose what it is. You could almost say like a movie like Parasite or something where suddenly everything turns and it becomes like a different movie except This movie has 2.5 tons of blood. I don't know if I mentioned that before. Even at the beginning, what is interesting, I think, is when the turn happens, I became slightly more at ease with the amount of gore. Yeah, that's interesting. I didn't realise that. This is when we were messaging about this before the pod. I was like, I don't know if this is the sort of action movie I would ordinarily feature on the pod, been in my sort of purview for so long, and then it popped up, oh, we had the opportunity to watch it. And I was like, you know what? It is an action movie. It is action packed for the best part of two hours. But it's also like a horror movie. It's a sci-fi movie. It's so many genres kind of melded into one. It's so interesting. Is it the thing that it put me in mind of? Because I have no problem with gory films. I watch a of them. But you're right. Until this sort of monster element was introduced, it felt like, oh my god, this is gory. And what I realized is it's because it's a modern setting. Like, if you'd watched something like, I don't know, Shuggen's assassin or baby car, if you watch it in the series, like an old samurai film with that level of gaw, you wouldn't have batted an eye. But because it felt so out of place for this sort of, what essentially is a sort of heat action film. Yes, to some extent, although don't go in expecting. Yeah, don't either of those things. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's a modern day setting. There's modern cops, modern criminals. The conventions of this sort of film, even even sort of you watch like some of the, you know, the agents in a movie watch like, um, Rage and Fire is a really good comparison for that sort of gun and hand-on-hand combat. Yeah. like a matter of spray. I mean, if I could summarize this film in a noise, it'd just be just the whoever is credited with arterial spray on this movie should get some kind of award. Even compared to movies like The Night Comes For Us, which are so stabby. Great comparison. Very bloody. This is like that squared. Nobody just gets, you know, just killed. Everyone has a knife stuck in their neck and blood squirts out, like aggressively squirts out. And that is just the criminals of the cops at the beginning. This is before the, he's called alpha, I think, this super soldier Frankenstein monster arrives. And then, and then, who boy, then, you know, people's head stuck, getting burst, limbs stuck, coming off. And oddly, I can't tell if it's, if I was desensitized to it by then, or because it was a monster movie, feel as unpleasant. No, exactly that. I went to, again, I hadn't registered on a conscious level, but exactly the same. Yeah. It's crazy though. There's obviously a lot of love put into this film. Like Hong Sun Kim is the director and they wrote and directed this and they clearly, this is a passion project because I will say this, like they've thought this through. They know what they want to create. The folio on this film is. next level to the point where one of my favorite things on this film is the Alphas, the monster, the way it sounds so heavy because of the detail they've given to the foot. Yes, these got such heavy feet. It feels like this. It's the only way, so I don't know if you've ever played these games, but if you ever played Resident Evil like any of the remakes especially, they feel like a sort of Mr X style tyrant where they're always around the corner. you knock them down, they're going to get back up. And then you just have this level of like, it's their stalking you on some level. And I got the Resident Evil Nemesis vibes from it. Yeah, exactly that sort of, yeah, Miss Erick's Nemesis, exactly that. Even to the point where some of the plot feels like if they said, oh, it's a pharmaceutical company that's obviously manipulating this World War II weapon, they could have been the umbrella corporation. as an influence. But yeah, I mean, again, like, it does, it did it in stages. What's really good about this film is, from our point of view, like you say, I understand why you say I don't think this is an action, because I do think it falls more into horror. I think you're right there, but it is choreographed well. It, and it does hit, gunfight, and it does hit, hands the hand. And there's a lot of great stunt work. Like, there's people getting smashed through things, over things. There's so many people attached to wires, across rooms and stuff. That's very enjoyable. It is, it's great, but why I like about this is the pace and all that. I think like it sort of does it in three tiers with a little sort of prologue at the beginning to sort of set up why these criminals are on. But it's sort of like you have the, you know, the first level of the story which is put the criminals on this boat, have them escape. That's the first hour essentially and have everything come to a head. And that in itself is an enjoyable watch. Then it escalates it with this thing well, you know this thing is there, you know something's happening, that wakes up. And then you're like, okay, how are they going to get off the ship? And you do, I know, I don't want to give too much away, but you root for people who absolutely don't make it. And like, you don't realize you're rooting for them to the point where when they're killed, you're kind of surprised they die at that point because of the way the camera is very, like the direction and the camera is very much tricked you into going, well, that's one of the last people and they're going to have to work. the nature expectations. Whatever you think is the route through this film, it's not nobody is safe. And then at the end, it does exactly what this sort of film is. On a stopper monster, you need it if it's an removal force, you didn't unstopper. What is it? A removal object. A stopper object. A removal force. You need a stronger monster. But yeah, and then it escalates again without giving too much away about who's on what's when they sort of come into this. A lot of other films There's a lot of lore packed into the last third act to sort of give you the answer so you don't go away going, what's this? Doesn't completely explain it but gives you enough. And I think that is great. And I think they've set up for an absolutely massive sequel. And they've really, really, really enjoyed this film. And you said this before we even watched it, you're like, you're gonna like this more than me. Yeah, as I was watching it, and I was like having this sort of debate in my head of, I don't really think This is like a, you know, dodge this action movie, so to speak, but I know Matthew will really like this. And I know he'll have loads to say about it. So you know what? It's coming out soon. Let's just talk about it because I think a lot of people will be interested in it as, as I remember when we watched the trailer and we were like, what is this about? And the trailer kind of was like, hmm, but some things are missed. And it didn't give you any spoilers. It didn't really tell you anything. And then kind of going in blind with that. there's something, there's something happening on the boat, isn't there? But you just, I just didn't, I said, you know he's there. And then you kind of forget because you're like, oh my God, these criminals are so horrible. Why do they keep killing everyone? And then, and then just in the sort of blink of an eye, everyone who you thought was relevant in the movie is just dead. It's extraordinary. It's absolutely great. And I did enjoy it. in I was a little bit like, oh, this is a bit too much. I don't know. And then the kind of the monster element of it was a bit like, yeah, okay, but I'm not the biggest fan of horror movies, per se, but the good ones that peak their heads above the parapet I will watch. And I think this is one of those interesting ones where it's like, yeah, okay, maybe if you'd sort of told me before I watched it, I would be like, I don't really know, actually, if that's for me, but I am glad I am glad that I saw it. And I did, there were elements of it that I really liked. And I do like how it keeps evolving from one genre to another. And at no point did I know what was going to happen? I mean, from the kind of the turn, the twist in the middle onwards, it very quickly says, you got no idea, mate. I had an inkling. I mean, there's always characters who you're like, well, okay, he's probably got a secret, hasn't he? And then it was like, yeah, okay. Surprise! like the biggest surprise, but I liked how it played out. Again, this is a film that is really like, I can't say this enough, this film is so well done. It's so thought out, it's so planned out, and everything is executed, so you have exactly what you need at the end of the film to put it all together retrospectively. Yeah, I think it's not a perfect movie in any stretch. I think the characters are pretty a horror aficionado. You know, I don't watch Halloween movies and rate the kills and that sort of thing. But I do think like once the monster arrives, he does just sort of Hulk smash a lot of people and there was probably space for like some more inventiveness in the way people get dispatched if that's what you want from the movie. But I think that's the sort of thing that ruins a franchise. I think what's great about this is what makes this manisting is there isn't that element. It is just, and there's no sort of reason to it. They explain it away later on in the film, but if it's sent to you, it will kill you. It's sort of like a weird prejudice, isn't it? Like a staple-up predator. I like that. It doesn't have reason, because I think, like, it certainly was picking a chooset or letting someone live. it wouldn't have the menace that it has here. There's not any nuance. There's also a flashback that sort of, sort of to explain his origin story, but also it doesn't give you any information. But his origin story is essentially kept in America gone horribly wrong. Yes, but for some point, they feel the need to flash back to 1940s and have like Japanese soldiers and him awakening and then just killing 10 people, but you learn nothing from that. I remember it was like, it was like Castle Wolfenstein. It was setting up. Yeah, it was exactly like. I don't know the uniforms of the time. No. But it literally, the, the flashback was like, this is when he was invented. And then it's like, he's woke up and killed everyone. And then you're like, well, yeah, I mean, you told us that. Why did you, what is the point of this flashback? You just needed to use a bit more blood up. I don't know why he needed it. They needed to show the conventions of the procedure so you can identify the others later. That's how I read it. What? They all get a split down there. chest and never explain it away, which is some sort of seizure. So you can identify other potential. I think they needed because he's supposed to be from like born 1911. You need to see here's before you can see a modern one because otherwise you would compartmentalize him as having happened later on. So it's essentially yeah, this farm soup company's got this super soldier serum that's already gone wrong. But what's beautiful about this is, The reason he is unwielding and killing is they explain it way going he was so violent They lobotomize them which took away his reason So he doesn't differentiate with killing and stuff like that they stapled his eyes closed Yeah, I don't know if that's just a main look. He just looks like a sort of Frankenstein terrifying enormous monster The amazing thing about this is I don't think there's much else you need to cover on this film I'd like I think I think that's pretty much done it say what I really like about this film again with it's it's constantly making you it's a every bit is a magic trick. Make sure you look at the wrong thing, which I think is really clever to the point where the even the title project wolf hunt in. I thought that was going to be to do with werewolves. I thought this is a werewolf. Yeah, interesting. No, he has wolf DNA in him. shot of a wolf in the movie somewhere to kind of like be like, so you can go. He's like who prays on people like a wolf, right? And he has senses like a what I also call is also called alpha, which, so there are other. Yes. In this. Yes. Because he was the first one, right? And then there's, there's more modern ones. Yeah. Also, I'm not going to say much more. If you've listened this far, you're probably not going to watch the movie or your enjoyment won't change either way. If you still want to go and watch it, I think you'll know if you've listened this far, you'll be like, Yeah, I think I want to, that sounds like the sort of, how much blood is there? Is there over two tons of blood? Yes, I would like to see it. I would like to see that. Is that a record? Because the new evil dead supposed to set the record, isn't it? There's a new evil dead. Yeah, and it's done by the... I fell on the mute. ..and we must have touched upon this. It's done by the, I think the same people that did the remake of evil dead, so it's a lot grittier, a lot like... I don't think I saw the remake. It's horrible. Really got into my skin. So, like evil dead, obviously, there's a real sense of fun and slapstick. That did not. Oh, dear. Like, and have you watched Ash versus Evil Dead? Wait, the TV show? TV show, yeah. I think what's the first episode of it? And then I didn't watch any more of it. Oh, that's about us. I generally, next to Evil Dead 2, that's as perfect as Evil Dead gets. I don't know if this is going to sort of balance a two where it's still got a sense of fun and it's absolutely horrific. But I think they are going to set the record for Blood by the Sun. of things. Wow. Another little fact about this movie, the official body count is 57. Apparently, if ever you needed a sales pitch for a movie, body count, 57, leases of blood, or 2.5 tons, don't know what that is, and later, I always think of Hot Shot's part, Dürr, I think it is with body count, because they have a joke where there's a massive shootout and they're like equal and I think that might have been the highest body count in the main shooting act you've filmed at the time. Yeah. You always think of it. Yeah. Boring. My past. No, it's a good fact. Look, is there memorable martial arts, guns, cars in this? Not so much. There's some, a few little skirmishes, a few little bits of and then a monster smashing people to bits. There are, I mean, the monster does smash people to bits in quite a novel way occasionally, but I did, I think after a while, become a bit numb to him smashing people to bits. And there is a little bit of the sort of, I don't know what you, how you would describe this effect in films where, in a martial arts film, where people attack one at a time or stand around the background, waiting to get beaten up. There's a little bit of that in this with the monster, where you're like, I feel like people could be doing more against the monster. Also, after the police have about 10 of them absolutely brutally murdered, then they catch up with all the criminals and they're just like, right, we need to have a good old talking to you. You pesky little villains instead of just being like, we're the police, we are going to shoot you because you've murdered quite a lot of policemen. Sorry, I don't want to sound too anorey about this, but I think they're well within their rights to shoot some of the criminals, while they were doing murder, doesn't they still want to shoot in them? Anyway, this movie has none of the humor of Evil Dead. There is not a great deal of tongue in cheek. It is very, very on the nose. It is, I think, you know, he set out to make this movie. He set out to make a movie where every injury of death is accompanied by blood spraying everywhere. And you can't fault that. He's definitely delivered. I think the bloodiest movie I've ever seen. It's up there. It is up there. And I'm saying that. And I don't watch a lot of horror movies. But yeah, if you if you rank it, then I think we're on to something. Yeah. It is definitely, definitely up there. I would say, give it a go. If you are not put off my blood, give it a go. Um, I think if you're like me and you lean into horror and action, I think this is the perfect sort of nugget for you. This is a sort of film that I absolutely love. It is the perfect sort of film that I love watching. White's gone to bed. I'm up a bit late. I thought, just sit down. I've got two hours till bedtime. And I just, you know, don't take my eyes off the screen. I think this is great. There's some real, like in the worst possible way fun bits in this film. And again, Hong Sun Kim, who's done this, they clearly cared about this film. They clearly wanted to do everything they set out to do. I think they probably got on to the screen. Looks great. And also to heart back to our budget conversation, you know, couldn't tell you absolutely no idea. Yeah. I wouldn't know that. Yeah. It's definitely like they shot it on two real ships apparently. And then they also built a big set. It all looks great. And I don't know how much 2.5 tons of blood costs, but you know, you've got to have a budget just for that. Well, let's think about it. How much is a tip of golden syrup? Okay. Okay. That's the average, isn't it? Is that that quiz they have in Empire? How much is a tub of golden syrup? But this is, if you have a, if you have a major fake blitz for a film, I don't believe I have any. I have any. No. myself and another comedian, Ben Target, once made, I think it was about 10 liters of fake blood for a gig. And that's how you make it. You get golden syrup, you get, you put hot water in it so it melts down a little bit and it's a bit thinner, put red food coloring in and then you get a little bit chocolate powder to darken it because otherwise it's too red. Wow. And then that's how you make simple fake blood. I'm not sure if that is Hollywood standard still, but they used to use that School of Psycho Blood. Yeah. Yeah, no, you can't use Pigsblood anymore. Shame, actually, because I got loads I'm trying to get rid of. Oh, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You going to action replay? I'm going to take the easy way out. Oh no, actually, I was going to say when he arrives, but that's just, you know, too easy. All right, it's going to be, it's going to be when this is, is it a spoiler? What is a spoiler? It's when the, it's when the one who you think might make it, the cop, fights, fights the, fights the monsters arm off. Yeah. That was, that was, I forgot it and as I started saying it's just when the monster arrives I was like, oh no I remembered one of the most ludicrous moments in this film. Well because he's a Frankenstein and he's had his arm sewn back on the cop just goes, I'm gonna die but before I do I'm taking an arm and he just somehow choose through his arm such that it comes off. I mean again these are the types of things that happen in this movie probably tell you whether or not you're going to enjoy it. Oh, that is good. That was going to be one of my two. My other one, I actually rewound this bit, so I enjoyed it so much. Oh my goodness. It's not nice, but I really appreciate it. There's basically a bit where they did two more combat fatalities and about 20 seconds. And one of them is literally, I had to watch it. The reason I rewound it is because I couldn't tell and I still can't, but basically he does a cano heart rip and then decides that's not dead enough. So he just repeatedly punches into a person and they turn to him and he does a jacks and tear someone's arm off. And I had to write more combat references to be fair. I had to rewatch it simply because I still can't tell and this is this is a real strength of this. I get the sense most of this stuff you how they've done some of it. That is true actually. If you're fed up with all the CGI and Marvel itus, maybe, maybe a bit harsh to lumber it all on Marvel, but there's, it does feel like a very traditional practical effects movie. I mean, obviously there's 2.5 liters of blood for God's sake, but there was no points that really like CG stood out. I'm sure there's loads of it. There's definitely while work. Some really good while work. Lows of while work people flying about the place because they've been punched in the chest by a massive Frankenstein with stapled up eyes. Yeah, I'll take Mortal Kombat moves. That's a perfect action replay actually. And the fact that you actually action replayed it when you watched it, it happened so fast. And because like it was such a weird big because it was in a flashback as well. I just I just is like, oh, what? Just, I'm gonna go back 20 seconds and see what happened then. Yeah, it's great. Incredible scenes. about wraps it up for episode two season two. Welcome back. It's Dodge this is an action movie podcast, and that is the end. Hey, in the meantime, follow us on all the socials, although if you wanna watch project wallfunding, I give it one more little pull ago, it's something icon film channel in the UK, and it's also being released by Wellgo in the US, which I suspect possibly means it could show up on the old high-r streaming service that I'm a big fan of, as you will know. Also, it's got a little release in UK cinemas from the 10th of March. If it sounds like the kind of thing you're into, go and see it in the cinemas. Obviously, seeing this with an audience, I think, would be quite an experience. Like just a hundred people all kind of wincing at the same time or laughing because it's so gross. I think that would be great. It puts a knife in slowly. That doesn't even narrow it down. I don't even know what that is. Into a key. Yeah, it's quite horrible in a lot of ways, but your mileage may vary. That brings us to the end of Don't This. We'll see you next time. If you want to get in touch with this, you can tweet us or find me in Matt separately. If you want to be the biggest fan of the podcast ever, you can go on a bus route page and subscribe! Any more business? No, but if I do inject myself with super soldier serum, I'm coming for you first time. But you're supposed to be like, that's the one, like the robot cop where you see that I'm actually your friend and then you think you're going to smash my head in and then you go, like, but I feel something for him. I didn't say I was going to kill you. You're just going to come and give me a big hug. Yeah, which will probably kill you.